Differences between 60HP and 85HP Ford flatheads

What are the obvious physical differences between the 2 engines? As I recall there was something about the location of the water pumps and possibly number of headbolts. I just can't recall.

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It is two totally different engines, except the distributor, nothing interchanges. The '60' is smaller in every way,136 cid (85 is 221), has a smaller gearbox too. It was made 37-40, its a cute little thing with the right sound. (Yes, I´ve got one) /A N

Wasn't the 60-hp the V8-60, the 60-degree-cylinder-bank-angle motor, where the 85-hp was a standard 90-degree V8?

If so there were all sorts of differences, AFAIK, very little was common between them, if anything.

Of course, I could just be remembering wrong... there were a number of displacement differences between the 90-degree flatheads, over the years too, that I don't remember the figures to...

Regards, Gordon. too young to have seen them the first time around, but has gotten to see a couple here and there anyhow... ^_^

The V8-60 was considerably smaller and the upper radiator hose came out the center of the head, looking like a miniature 95 or 100 HP engine. The V8-85 had 21studs per head and the top hose came out the near the front of the head.

Ed Campbell

Nope, 221 cu.in. flathead Ford engines could have had center head water outlets or water outlets at the front of the head depending upon the given model year. '46 thru '48 production had center head outlets. '49 thru '53 239 cu. in. 100 & 110 hp engines had the water outlets on the front of heads. The Ford flathead V8 of the '30's and early '40s was plagued with overheating problems and many experiments with engine water routing intended to address the problem were placed into production between 1932 and 1939. Many of these engine variations had aluminum heads and some variations had only had 18 head bolt studs.

The 60 hp V8 looked almost like a toy version of its larger counterpart with piston bores of 2.6 inches verses 3-1/16 for the 221 cu. in. engine. The water outlet on the 60 hp engine was at the center of the head and not the front as found on late 221 cu. in. engines and a few early 239 cu. in. engines. The 60 hp engine was manufactured in production years 1937 thru 1940.

Jim, on a lighter issue, my grandfather bought a new Ford 60 Tudor. My Dad owned a '32 V8 (with a new dealer-installed V8, the '32 V8's had some problems) and when Grampa came to visit us we went for a ride in his new '60' with Dad driving. I remeber him saying that its a good thing that Gramps only had one passenger (Gram) cause otherwise it would never make it up the hill of our driveway!